GLOW CRE Podcast

GLOW CRE. A podcast sponsored by Greystone.

Gaining Leaders, Originators, and Women in Commercial Real Estate

Greystone’s Pharrah Jackson and Pamela van Os share their words of wisdom with friends and colleagues in a podcast to inspire a new generation of women and future leaders in commercial real estate. GLOW CRE, which launched in March 2023, during Women’s History Month, stands for: Gaining Leaders, Originators and Women in Commercial Real Estate. The podcast is an honest look into what it’s like being a woman in CRE finance, how some of the industry’s top women got to where they are, and how women can work together with men as allies to increase equity for all in the CRE sector.

Catch Up on the Latest GLOW CRE Episodes

Episode 11: Pranika Sinha on Imposter Syndrome

GLOW CRE hosts Pharrah Jackson and Pamela van Os dive into imposter syndrome with respected DEI industry expert (and resident Greystonite) Pranika Sinha. Pranika gives her perspective on why DEI is critical to the advancement of women in their careers, shares some surprising facts about how early imposter syndrome can appear and how many people experience it, and provides...

Episode 10: GLOW CRE's 2023 Year in Review

Hosts Pamela van Os and Pharrah Jackson reflect on the first year of all things GLOW CRE, including the wisdom and insights shared by leading women (and their allies) in commercial real estate. Don't miss some of their favorite quotes, mantras, and affirmations from guests this year! Join GLOW CRE in 2024 for more inspiring stories when Pamela and Pharrah return with...

Episode 9: Selena Rezvani on Gaining Confidence

GLOW CRE hosts Pharrah Jackson and Pamela van Os are joined by renowned leadership speaker and best-selling author Selena Rezvani to discuss key concepts from her latest book, Quick Confidence. In this episode, you will learn the art of the "resting neutral face" and how to become an expert in your own value. With the tools Selena provides, you can rise above anything tha...

Episode 8: Chris Papa on Serving Others

In a conversation with a critical industry ally, GLOW CRE hosts Pharrah Jackson and Pamela van Os speak with Chris Papa, Founding Partner of executive search firm Jackson Lucas, about the progress women are making in equity within the CRE sector. Chris shares his unique perspective on helping women negotiate pay, he reveals some unique gender-based survey data, and identi...

Episode 7: Christina Flynn on the Art of Underwriting

In this jam-packed episode, GLOW CRE hosts Pamela van Os and Pharrah Jackson are joined by Christina Flynn, Senior Vice President and Chief Underwriter at Fannie Mae. Learn everything there is to know about multifamily credit and why Chris believes loan underwriting involves a bit more "art than science." As a manager, Chris also discusses the importance of respect - part...

Episode 6: Sarah Garland on Making Your Own Luck

GLOW CRE hosts Pamela van Os and Pharrah Jackson are joined by Sarah Garland, Senior Managing Director at CBRE, who talks about mentorship, the different career styles of men vs women, how to grow effectively into management, and the importance of not making assumptions.  ...

Episode 5: Cedric Bobo on Playing to Your Capabilities

According to CREW, women make up just 36% of the CRE industry. In this episode of GLOW CRE, hosts Pamela and Pharrah bring an ally into the conversation to learn more about supporting women and minorities in commercial real estate finance. Cedric Bobo, founder and CEO of Project Destined, talks about how he's built a mentoring platform to funnel talent to CRE and helps P...

Episode 4: Susan Tjarksen on the Power of Negotiation

GLOW CRE hosts Pharrah Jackson and Pamela van Os talk about being entrepreneurial and the power of negotiation with Susan Tjarksen, Managing Director at Cushman & Wakefield. Take a listen to Susan's invaluable advice for women in business and finance, including why she started coming to meetings late - on purpose - and her view on failure as a path to success.  ...

Episode 3: Stephanie Wiggins on Confidence as a Superpower

GLOW CRE hosts Pharrah Jackson and Pamela van Os chat with Stephanie Wiggins, Managing Director and Head of Agency production at PGIM. Stephanie shares what inspires her about the "new generation" coming up in CRE industry, and what motivates her to do TODAY what could be done tomorrow. You don't want to miss Episode 3 of GLOW CRE!  ...

Episode 2: Kristen Croxton on Being Yourself

GLOW CRE hosts Pharrah Jackson and Pamela van Os speak with Kristen Croxton, a Senior Vice President of Originations for Capital One Multifamily Finance. Kristen shares why she's successful in loan sales and her best advice for making progress in your career. Hear how Kristen stands out in a "sea of blue blazers" in Episode 2 of GLOW CRE!  ...

We want women in this industry to be lights for each other and to completely light up the entire CRE industry.

Pharrah Jackson
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